Modern Bird Species in the Cretaceous? No!
Introduction:
Don Batten, a writer
associated with Creation Ministries International, has been the most vocal
advocate of the claim that modern species of birds have been found in rock
layers with dinosaurs. He usually quotes Dr. Carl Werner. Two examples of this claim are:
"Dr Carl Werner’s book and DVD, Living
Fossils, reveals that fossil researchers
have found many modern bird remains with dinosaurs..."
"Most people are surprised to
learn that many modern bird species have been discovered buried with dinosaur
remains: “parrots, owls, penguins, ducks, loons, albatross, cormorants,
sandpipers, avocets, etc.” (Batten, Don, “Living Fossils: a Powerful Argument
for Creation,” Creation 33 (2), 2011.) “This
symphysis appears to represent the oldest known parrot and is, to my knowledge,
the first known fossil of a ‘terrestrial’ modern bird group from the
Cretaceous. The existence of this fossil supports the hypothesis, based on
molecular divergence data that most or all of the major modern bird groups were
present in the Cretaceous.” (Stidham, Thomas A., Nature 396, 29-30, November 5, 1998.)"
[quoted from the webside "Genesis Park"]
What is
important to notice here is that Dr. Werner never says that modern species of
birds are found buried with the dinosaurs.
He says "modern birds" or "modern groups of birds". Werner is hoping that his audience won't know
that there is a difference between a modern group of birds, and a modern species
of bird. A modern species of bird is one
which is living today, such as the Red-crowned Amazon Parrot, (Amazona viridigenalis), native to
Mexico. The modern group is the Order
Psittaciformes, which has almost 400 species in 92 genera living today, but
includes all the fossil relatives of the Order, going back perhaps to the Late
Cretaceous 70 million years ago, if Stidham's fossil is confirmed to be a
parrot. Modern species are limited to
the present day, or perhaps a few million years into the past. No modern species is known from the
Oligocene, Eocene or Paleocene, and certainly not from the Cretaceous. But most of the modern orders of birds are well known back to the beginning of the
Paleocene, some 65 million years ago, meaning that they evolved in the Late
Cretaceous, or earlier.
Analysis of Werner's claims:
We can take Werner's claims and check the facts. We have to make some assumptions about what he meant, since the "modern birds" he mentions are not all of equivalent rank in the scientific classification, but I've tried to do so to mirror what I think was Werner's intention. I've given examples of modern species which would fit within Werner's group name, and indicated the family or order to which they belong. Next is the age of the earliest known fossil from that family or order, and the fossil species upon which it is based.
Werner's
name
|
Living
example common name
|
Living
species name
|
Order
or Family
|
Age of
earliest known fossil
|
Fossil
species
|
parrot
|
Amazon
Parrot
|
Amazona viridigenalis
|
Psittaciformes
|
Late
Cretaceous
|
Unnamed
but described
|
owl
|
Great
Horned Owl
|
Bubo virginianus
|
Strigiformes
|
Paleocene
|
Berruornis, Ogygoptynx
Supposed
Cretaceous owls are non-avialian dinosaurs
|
penguin
|
Magellan's
Penguin
|
Spheniscus magellanicus
|
Sphenisciformes
|
Early
Paleocene
|
Waimanu manneringi
|
duck
|
Mallard
|
Anas platyrhynchos
|
Anatidae
|
Late
Eocene
|
Romanvillia sp.
|
loon
|
Common
Loon
|
Gavia immer
|
Gaviformes
|
Late
Eocene / Early Oligocene
|
Colymboides minutus
|
albatross
|
Wandering
Albatross
|
Diomedia exulans
|
Diomedeidae
|
Middle
Eocene
|
Murunkus subitus
|
cormorant
|
Double
Crested Cormorant
|
Phalacrocorax auritus
|
Palacrocoracidae
|
Late
Cretaceous
|
Unnamed
species in Asia and North America
|
sandpiper
|
Sandpipers,
curlews and snipe
|
various
|
Scolopacidae
|
Early
Eocene
|
Paractitis bardi
|
avocet
|
American
Avocet
|
Recurvirostra americana
|
Recurvirostridae
|
Late
Eocene / Early Oligocene
|
Recurvirostra sanctaeneboulae
|
So where does Werner and
the Creationists who parrot him go wrong?
They make three mistakes:
1. The Cretaceous and early Tertiary fossil birds are
not members of any species living today.
They are not members of any living genus. Recurvirostra
is the sole exception, and one suspects that the very fragmentary fossil, a
partial coracoid, is insufficient to support such a generic assignment. They may be members of families which have
modern survivors.
2. They cherry-pick paleontologists who make statements about a fossil species like "This fossil would have looked
very similar to a modern duck".
That does not mean it is from a living species of duck, or that it is
even in the same family (Anatidae) or order (Anseriformes) as living ducks.
3. They use common names with vague definitions
rather than give the name of the fossil so that anyone can check their claims.
Conclusion:
Cretaceous dinosaurs did not co-exist with any modern bird species.
Cretaceous dinosaurs though did co-exist with the ancestors of modern bird species.
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